[08:01:44] snover! [08:01:57] Perfect timing. I just came in here to ping you :-) [08:02:32] For the .travis.yml, shouldn't `directories:` be indented? [08:02:41] I though YAML cared about whitespace. [08:02:57] s/though/thought/ [08:06:14] yes [08:08:00] Also, arthurvr's question about travis_retry. [08:08:14] Since we're not manually running the npm installs, I don't think we need this. [08:08:22] They should automatically be retried. [08:09:21] Well, he had a comment about not needing to manually install grunt-cli. [08:09:37] it‘s not hurting anything, i just copied a working config that was created before whenever travis changed to bundle grunt-cli [08:09:42] But the `npm install` command is automatic. We shouldn't need to do a retry on it. [08:09:56] [PEP] ponychicken opened issue #169: Publish on NPM http://git.io/pnww [08:11:08] npm install is only automatic if you don’t have an install block [08:11:11] [PEP] scottgonzalez closed issue #169: Publish on NPM http://git.io/pnww [08:11:25] ah, ok [08:11:27] and yes you do need to do a retry on it, npm is unreliable [08:11:44] I meant we didn't need a retry because it was automatic, so it already had a retry. [08:12:57] Well, since you need to update the file anyway for the directories, let's just drop the install block since it seems like none of it is needed anymore. [08:14:56] in the nicest way possible, why all the nitpicking on the travis file? [08:15:47] snover: you have seen enough jquery related pr's to know we nit pick everything ;-) [08:15:50] are there not more important things to do, like getting this landed and fixing the ie test failures? [08:17:01] snover: Yes, I'm ready to land this. I just figured our config file doesn't need to have more than necessary. [08:17:47] i’m not possessive so if someone wants to mess with it later that’s fine with me! [08:17:50] :) [08:23:55] [PEP] scottgonzalez closed pull request #167: Update tests to use Intern (master...intern-tests) http://git.io/xHZG [09:19:24] snover: scott_gonzalez: Actually, sorry for all the nitpicking on the .travis.yml! Travis is just slow enough these days so I though we should not need to double-install a dependency. [09:20:13] (talking about the `travis_retry npm install -g grunt-cli`, travis automatically has that installed) [09:20:57] no worries, i just don’t want people to fall into the trap. perfect is the enemy of good [09:21:03] Anyways let’s stop bikeshedding! Nice work snover! [09:21:08] and i know, because i tilt at that windmill a *lot* [09:21:48] look on the bright side, if they break their vms by forgetting to install grunt-cli, it will still work… :) [09:23:57] since the node_modules directory is cached it should be pretty fast, the slowest part is the browserstack side [09:24:36] it takes less than 3 seconds to establish the environment with the build cache in place