[11:00:23] hey all [11:00:27] Hi [11:00:30] hiya [11:00:52] hey arschmitz, gseguin [11:01:11] _|Nix|_ agcolom_ agcolom toddmparker RWhitbeck [11:01:20] <_|Nix|_> Hey! [11:01:26] hey _|Nix|_ [11:01:35] agenda/updates: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1koHDKspWhzadOl682F-5UURrs63kbnfPxw1nBVwxM8o/edit?usp=sharing [11:02:07] let's start [11:02:30] looks like we are ready for 1.4 RC release [11:02:42] <_|Nix|_> Awesome! [11:02:45] just say the word [11:03:04] no open tickets anymore, besides the ones for demos [11:03:11] did we fix the demo script that looks for "demo" in the url ? [11:03:17] yup [11:03:22] kewl [11:03:39] so I'll be able to deploy the demo on the website [11:04:04] yeah, that should work [11:05:19] is the changelog up to date? [11:05:25] _|Nix|_ arschmitz ^^ [11:05:33] https://github.com/jquery/jquery-mobile/wiki/1.4-changelog [11:05:35] uGoMobi: i think so [11:05:38] <_|Nix|_> AFAIK [11:05:52] I think so too [11:06:36] I have to write a short blog post and will use the changelog for key changes [11:07:00] shall we release today? [11:07:16] I'm available [11:07:22] sounds good to me [11:07:28] no more changes after RC so we have to be sure :) [11:07:54] <_|Nix|_> Well, whatever we find we need to change, we'll just have to do it for 1.4.1. [11:08:05] right [11:08:29] <_|Nix|_> I wonder ... does it make sense to start 1.4-stable right after rc.1? [11:08:37] no [11:08:51] we will make changes in demos [11:09:02] I'm here... just finishing dinner... sorry... [11:09:23] hi agcolom [11:10:41] _|Nix|_: why would you want to create the branch already? [11:12:32] I'm guessing because RC is supposed to be stable [11:12:47] <_|Nix|_> uGoMobi: So we can fix things which will go into 1.4.1. [11:12:55] <_|Nix|_> uGoMobi: But it's not important. [11:13:04] <_|Nix|_> uGoMobi: We can do other branches, and do PRs, and file issues. [11:13:15] <_|Nix|_> uGoMobi: Plenty of ways to avoid our forgetting. [11:13:25] yeah [11:13:43] and maybe we need a RC2 [11:14:19] we also have to discuss commit messages [11:14:27] unless one of us needs to start working on future release on master [11:14:37] then there is no real reason to branch early [11:14:44] so I don't want commits for 1.4.1 or 1.5 yet [11:15:14] <_|Nix|_> uGoMobi: What about commit messages? [11:15:25] and even then, a feature branch should do. [11:15:29] we are going to use same format as UI and automate the changelog [11:16:42] I thought we were already doing that? [11:16:43] <_|Nix|_> uGoMobi: I thought we already were: "Component: Brief description. Fixes #nnn - issue title." [11:16:54] _|Nix|_: heh :) [11:17:00] we are not consistant enough with it [11:17:06] it also means we should always create a ticket for an issue (if there is none yet) and close with commit [11:17:12] and we dont always have an asscoiated message [11:17:15] lol [11:17:26] and by message i meant issue [11:17:30] <_|Nix|_> OK, wait a sec ... so every single commit fixes an issue? [11:17:41] unless its white space or somthing [11:18:15] but if you're working on a new feature that doesn't really make sense [11:18:33] there are just some things I want to discuss in first meeting after 1.4 final release [11:18:42] <_|Nix|_> "20:22:27 < jquicommit> jquery-ui/master 7e68945 Scott González: Menu (icons demo): Removed anchors from menu items." [11:18:42] things that should make our lives easier :) [11:18:49] <_|Nix|_> That one didn't fix any issues ... [11:19:07] ok, that would work then [11:20:04] let's first focus on 1.4 release [11:20:06] <_|Nix|_> gseguin: You could spin it that way: Create an issue, label it a feature request or dev task or whatever, then submit a PR that fixes that issue. [11:20:21] <_|Nix|_> gseguin: ... to handle new features, I mean. [11:20:28] _|Nix|_: overhead [11:20:37] <_|Nix|_> gseguin: *shrug* [11:20:45] if its a commit that should not show in change log it does not need an issue [11:20:45] just saying I want to have a moment to discuss a couple of things about the way we work [11:20:50] this is for automating changelog [11:20:58] not saying I want to discuss this now [11:21:05] ok [11:21:12] next topic then [11:21:13] <_|Nix|_> We can talk about it in AMS. [11:21:41] not all of us are in Amsterdam [11:21:49] s/are/will be/ [11:22:29] <_|Nix|_> Dang ... right ... [11:22:30] <_|Nix|_> NM ... [11:23:00] let's talk about things we have to do before 1.4 final [11:23:12] first things first [11:23:32] I am working on ThemeRoller update [11:23:47] and that's not an easy one [11:24:00] I bet [11:24:28] many people ask about the TR update [11:24:55] so I try to get it fixed ASAP [11:25:33] API docs update is going well [11:25:40] _|Nix|_: awesome work! [11:25:48] arschmitz: thanks for opening all those tickets! [11:26:03] yeah took a while to go through all the api :) [11:26:50] <_|Nix|_> arschmitz: Yeah, thanks a lot. It's good to have a clear path. [11:27:15] when I am done with the TR I am going to make the new web site ready [11:27:43] arschmitz: can you work on complete changelog and updating the supported platforms list? [11:27:54] uGoMobi: awesome and DB seems to be fine now have not received any complaints since i fixed [11:28:07] arschmitz: yeah, great that you fixed that [11:28:28] uGoMobi: yup ill get change log on master and then we can tweak it for 1.4 [11:28:43] it will still need some hand editing but should be simple compared to old ones [11:29:18] arschmitz: yeah, would be great if you could clean it up a bit [11:30:04] _|Nix|_: can you keep cranking on the API docs? [11:30:13] <_|Nix|_> uGoMobi: Yep. [11:30:29] awesome [11:30:54] I want to plan on releasing Mon 4 Nov [11:31:02] when we are in Amsterdam [11:31:43] I think we need a whole week at to get TR, docs and new web site in shape [11:31:54] and don't want to release Friday end of the day [11:32:11] good idea? [11:32:20] sounds good to me [11:32:23] <_|Nix|_> +1 [11:32:36] ok great [11:32:58] anything else we need to discuss? [11:34:00] oh, let's not forget about the open demos tickets [11:35:04] yeah ill take care of the search one and the nested listview one [11:35:15] cool [11:35:50] I think we can go back to -dev and get ready for RC release [11:35:54] yiha! [11:36:05] thanks all! [11:36:08] <_|Nix|_> Awesome!