[11:02:09] we should be unmoderated now [11:02:25] The jQuery Mobile team meeting is starting. [11:02:29] Chime in if you're here [11:02:41] here [11:02:47] here [11:03:47] * jzaefferer gets popcorn [11:04:36] just waiting to see if _nickel can get on [11:05:05] let's start by doing a check in on what everyone's working on right now [11:05:15] gseguin - want to start? [11:05:23] sure [11:05:36] let's see [11:05:55] been working with project707 on filtering listview [11:06:26] the transitions are not progressing even though I have spent time on it [11:06:39] there is a flash happening on reverse transition on iphone [11:06:42] not on ipad [11:06:47] hmm [11:07:05] is that the major snag right now on transitions or are there other problems? [11:07:38] I haven't tried it on android in the current state [11:08:06] I will do that now and report [11:08:15] ok [11:08:34] do you need help or another set of eyes? [11:09:08] I think so, one of you CSS experts [11:09:22] ok, we can take a look next week [11:09:34] i think this will be a beta 3 change so we can wait [11:09:48] ok [11:09:50] heck, maybe opera will land a fix and we can add it back in [11:09:58] heh [11:10:04] on the listview filter, what's the latest? [11:10:06] that would be great [11:10:22] waiting for _nickel's input [11:10:44] project707 wants another member to bless the direction he's going in [11:11:02] ok, maybe he'll chime in soon [11:11:02] to not "waste" cycles [11:11:09] anything else you've been looking at? [11:11:14] yeah he's supposed to review that today [11:11:31] yeah, hold on [11:11:35] k [11:11:43] I'm going to land https://github.com/jquery/jquery-mobile/pull/2102 [11:12:03] if there are any bug fixes you want to land for beta 2, tomorrow will prolly be the cutoff [11:12:19] alright, I'll spend the rest of the day on bugs then [11:12:19] cool [11:12:24] super [11:12:42] that's it for me [11:12:46] nice. So _nickel felt better about that change after I dropped off? [11:12:57] the LI indices change [11:13:14] transitions are awesome on android btw [11:13:19] including reverse [11:13:25] nice. better than master? [11:13:33] hmm [11:13:38] let me check that [11:13:44] ok [11:13:57] so scottjehl...you're up [11:14:07] ok [11:14:30] so, I'd been working on a few things lately [11:14:31] scottjehl: _nickel said to land it he'll look at it later [11:14:51] we had a regression on the degradeInputs option of the page plugin [11:15:23] it was removed in decoupling. [11:15:29] Now it's back, but it's in a separate file [11:15:38] so we're good on that [11:16:00] umm. auto-init option landed [11:16:40] pretty basic. It doesn't change any existing behavior, but you can disable auto initialization if you want to call $.mobile.initializePage() on your own [11:17:12] many people requested this so they could do things like generating the markup with js before init. Not something we'd recommend, but they can do it now :) [11:17:16] woo hoo [11:17:22] k let's see [11:17:50] oh, ajax-dom-caching should be ready to merge [11:18:10] _nickel helped me out with a few things and added some great tests [11:18:23] I thought you were going to rename it? [11:18:24] I think it's on him at this point to land it when he feels it's ready [11:18:30] that would be sweet to land for beta 2 if we can [11:18:32] ah. good call [11:18:42] so yeah, I'm open to renaming it [11:18:43] did we agree on a name? [11:18:48] we should discuss in dev channel [11:18:54] ok [11:19:03] totally agree it's too long though [11:19:04] guess we can pick that up later when _nickel is on [11:19:15] currently, I'm working on pushstate [11:19:16] dom cache [11:19:28] I think I found a much lighter way to bring it in [11:19:32] we'll see [11:19:35] pushState would be me and everyone else very happy [11:19:55] that's my #1 feature too [11:19:57] much easier to view page source in the docs w/o hacking the URLs [11:20:03] yeah [11:20:08] much easier to not break the web too ;) [11:20:17] heh, that too yeah [11:20:37] we don't break it, just dent it, maybe kick it a bit [11:20:53] k what else [11:20:57] so on my end, i'm working on this week's blog post [11:21:31] oh - each widget has an initSelector plugin, which can be configured to customize which elements are auto initialized as that widget [11:21:38] sorry option [11:21:39] not plugin [11:22:19] that's only in the widget factory plugins [11:22:22] i need to document that [11:22:26] cool [11:22:57] doc looks good btw toddparker [11:23:04] thanks [11:23:05] i'm done. Todd? [11:23:09] yeah great work! [11:23:15] pretty simple. i was following the UI docs [11:23:33] so i tweeted the link to the select docs for feedback [11:23:35] all good so far [11:23:41] great [11:23:42] better than nothin' anyway [11:23:48] transitions are not working on FF mobile beta :( [11:23:55] yeah, noticed that [11:24:01] not supported yet? [11:24:14] so for docs, i created a ticket here: [11:24:14] https://github.com/jquery/jquery-mobile/issues/2161 [11:24:37] that has a link to the select example, wiki page with steps to follow when writing docs [11:25:04] to keep people from stepping on toes, i'm suggesting they comment on the ticket to claim a plugin [11:25:12] then submit pull requests [11:25:37] the one thing that came up is that obviously, html markup isn't terribly structured [11:25:48] so the ideal situation would be to author these in xml [11:25:58] it's too bad that github "assign to" requires that a user be a collaborator [11:25:58] then transform that into multiple formats as needed [11:26:06] yeah [11:26:25] rwaldron, i've been adding non-committers as tags, tehn using that to assign [11:26:32] interested in helping out? [11:26:38] possibly [11:26:46] i'd have to read through ticket first :) [11:26:47] cool [11:26:51] tickets* [11:27:01] cool [11:27:45] here is a shiny new label for you [11:27:45] https://github.com/jquery/jquery-mobile/issues?labels=rwaldron&sort=created&direction=desc&state=open&page=1 [11:27:58] can you label issues [11:28:05] is not, ping me an i'll do it [11:28:11] for you [11:29:21] just removed the "Ghislain" label too [11:29:33] assigned all those to gseguin now that he's official [11:29:34] I was going to do that [11:29:37] thanks [11:29:38] did it [11:30:38] ok, so on docs i think we're probably going to just stick with html unless someone wants to get all crazy on some xslt [11:30:42] blech [11:31:07] { crickets } [11:31:11] markdown [11:31:23] hey eddiemonge [11:32:00] the learning site is currently using markdown and it seems to be fine. xml is a bit too structured [11:32:01] i think there needs to be an offline sync between the teams and infrastructure to nail down a docs format and technology so we're all using the same tools [11:32:26] this is why i haven't been able to move forward on the API stuff [11:32:42] ideally the API doc should be pulled out of the code via JSDoc or similar, don't you think? [11:32:42] going old skool html to get something out there [11:32:53] then we can all get the tech sorted [11:33:03] all good ideas [11:33:11] but different ideas ideas :) [11:33:41] i think using JSDoc would require major changes in the code wouldnt it? [11:34:03] that's why I prefixed my statement with "ideally" ;) [11:34:09] heh [11:34:42] i'm open to whatever is best, but doing this right will require some time and coordination between projects [11:35:02] so we'll keep it simple for now [11:35:19] i'd like to get the docs filled out in the next month so they are ready for 1.0 [11:35:26] sounds good [11:35:30] yep [11:35:41] think we can all agree that any of these ideas will prolly take a lot longer than that [11:35:44] ok, cool [11:36:03] so let's try to land an many branches and fixes by tomorrow [11:36:10] and plan on beta 2 going out early next week [11:36:20] i need to ask mr. resig waht day will workf or him [11:36:31] i'll start pasting together the release notes [11:36:51] the blog posts make this a cinch. copy and paste from the weekly posts and we're done [11:37:14] anything else we need to hash out now? [11:37:24] nothing here [11:37:52] ok, we can corner _nickel on -dev and find out what he's up to [11:38:07] alright, if there's no other bizness, we can wrap up [11:38:33] see you on -dev [11:38:36] thanks everbody! [11:38:40] over and out